Comments on: Why the SEO and Affiliate Paranoia-fest is Such a Joke http://www.seoloser.com/2007/04/06/why-the-seo-and-affiliate-paranoia-fest-is-such-a-joke/ ...a loser among losers Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:52:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: James Omdahl http://www.seoloser.com/2007/04/06/why-the-seo-and-affiliate-paranoia-fest-is-such-a-joke/#comment-672 James Omdahl Fri, 06 Apr 2007 21:41:26 +0000 http://www.seoloser.com/2007/04/06/why-the-seo-and-affiliate-paranoia-fest-is-such-a-joke/#comment-672 Fantastic post. The paranoia thing kills me too. If there is anything to be said for the SEO community, it's that it is full of cliques and is paranoid as all get out. I'm not going to this SES, but you should hand out SEO Loser tinfoil hats with the tag line "Google is Listening," or something like that. Fantastic post. The paranoia thing kills me too. If there is anything to be said for the SEO community, it’s that it is full of cliques and is paranoid as all get out.

I’m not going to this SES, but you should hand out SEO Loser tinfoil hats with the tag line “Google is Listening,” or something like that.

]]> By: Shawn Collins http://www.seoloser.com/2007/04/06/why-the-seo-and-affiliate-paranoia-fest-is-such-a-joke/#comment-670 Shawn Collins Fri, 06 Apr 2007 19:46:04 +0000 http://www.seoloser.com/2007/04/06/why-the-seo-and-affiliate-paranoia-fest-is-such-a-joke/#comment-670 <blockquote cite="“Dude, we got him! This idiot must have had a little too much to drink and gave away a secret!”"> I totally agree. It's funny how many people think they know some golden secret. Meanwhile, Shoemoney talks freely about what he's done to succeed and it's resulted in a dedicated following, which he can sell advertising against. And i don't think he's hurting from any copycats.

I totally agree. It’s funny how many people think they know some golden secret.

Meanwhile, Shoemoney talks freely about what he’s done to succeed and it’s resulted in a dedicated following, which he can sell advertising against.

And i don’t think he’s hurting from any copycats.

]]> By: Carsten Cumbrowski http://www.seoloser.com/2007/04/06/why-the-seo-and-affiliate-paranoia-fest-is-such-a-joke/#comment-668 Carsten Cumbrowski Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:47:23 +0000 http://www.seoloser.com/2007/04/06/why-the-seo-and-affiliate-paranoia-fest-is-such-a-joke/#comment-668 Like in most cases are both things true to more or less extend. Life would be easy without all that white, black and millions of shades of gray in between, wouldn't it? :) Long term strategies in affiliate marketing are generally known and publicized for everybody to access. They don't make you rich over night and have a catch. You have to actually work (consistently and ongoing) to make a living. No Sacks of gold to find here. There are always short term things that work for a limited period of time which are not made public when discovered. Those things tend to stop working rather sooner than later. This process is expedited the more people know about it and do it. It is extra money on the side and should not be the basis to start your business on. A lot of the gray area affiliate marketing stuff falls into this category as well. Basically stuff that would be called "black hat" in SEO circles. Legal stuff that is more or less ethical (depending on your definition of ethical and not ethical). What you should not share (free) is the stuff that can be come by via tedious work and hours spend on testing and researching. The foot work basically. You can describe how you approach those kind of things and really help others by doing so, but would be stupid to hand over the fruits of your labor to the next guy who is not in the mood to actually "work" to make a buck. "Sure, here is my keyword list, Ad Copies, Landing Pages and creatives... all tested and optimized for maximum conversion and ROI. Took me xx hours to research, create and refine, but you can have it for free, because I am stupid. Here, please take it." .... right :) Cheers! Carsten Like in most cases are both things true to more or less extend. Life would be easy without all that white, black and millions of shades of gray in between, wouldn’t it? :)

Long term strategies in affiliate marketing are generally known and publicized for everybody to access. They don’t make you rich over night and have a catch. You have to actually work (consistently and ongoing) to make a living. No Sacks of gold to find here.

There are always short term things that work for a limited period of time which are not made public when discovered. Those things tend to stop working rather sooner than later. This process is expedited the more people know about it and do it. It is extra money on the side and should not be the basis to start your business on. A lot of the gray area affiliate marketing stuff falls into this category as well. Basically stuff that would be called “black hat” in SEO circles. Legal stuff that is more or less ethical (depending on your definition of ethical and not ethical).

What you should not share (free) is the stuff that can be come by via tedious work and hours spend on testing and researching. The foot work basically. You can describe how you approach those kind of things and really help others by doing so, but would be stupid to hand over the fruits of your labor to the next guy who is not in the mood to actually “work” to make a buck.

“Sure, here is my keyword list, Ad Copies, Landing Pages and creatives… all tested and optimized for maximum conversion and ROI. Took me xx hours to research, create and refine, but you can have it for free, because I am stupid. Here, please take it.” …. right :)

Cheers!
Carsten

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